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		<title>Comment on Life is creative by Caroline</title>
		<link>http://klever.edublogs.org/2008/02/09/life-is-creative/#comment-2818</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Bonjour,

Found you through your comment on another blog.  I thought i'd say hello as a woman developping an online social network for 'international professionals', to network on personal, pratical life issues rather than professional ones. Or maybe I should say, where both professional and personal life issues are present, much like women tend to manage both aspects of their lives jointly rather than separately.

The network would be unique in its international outlook, both in terms of presence, around major cities worldwide, and in its content. The idea is to manage multilingual content. 

With this ambitious venture in mind, all interested parties are welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Bonjour,</p>
<p>Found you through your comment on another blog.  I thought i&#8217;d say hello as a woman developping an online social network for &#8216;international professionals&#8217;, to network on personal, pratical life issues rather than professional ones. Or maybe I should say, where both professional and personal life issues are present, much like women tend to manage both aspects of their lives jointly rather than separately.</p>
<p>The network would be unique in its international outlook, both in terms of presence, around major cities worldwide, and in its content. The idea is to manage multilingual content. </p>
<p>With this ambitious venture in mind, all interested parties are welcome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blogjects&#8230;hmm!!! by Julian Bleecker</title>
		<link>http://klever.edublogs.org/2006/06/10/blogjects-hmm/#comment-2747</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Bleecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's fun coming across various insights and remarks on the Blogject concept in all corners of the network. I would add to your insights that my wanting to think about Blogjects as something new (and forgive my devising a bungling idiom) is a political move best described thusly: "we" (inhabitants herein of the planet) need new things to cope with (insert your epic worldly challenge here) in a new way because the old ways are not working. There is, empirically, something new about objects nowadays in that they can potentially (so long as we don't dismiss the ways they can help us create more habitable worlds) co-inhabit this fascinating and promising digitally networked world of social exchange that is taking place on the Internet. That social exchange is dramatically new (cf. Benkler and Jenkins, forthcoming), and heavy with opportunity for refashioning the world. 

Example: We have never had a world in which an $18.90 sensor (in single units) coupled to an existing two-way datastream (eg General Motor's OnStar(tm) system or, as I'm doing, a simple GSM network data transfer and a Nokia phone) can disseminate at a high rate (25/sec) the content of gasoline or diesel emissions from vehicles — and publish that in real-time to the entirety of the networked world. That _potential_ for a simple Blogject is new. This Blogject has no Artificial Intelligence — that's not what Blogjects are about. But, in the Latourian sense, Blogjects are social beings in that they (can) participate in conversations that matter, substantively.

Blogjects are "only" sources of information if that is all we want from them. Websites were only sources of information once, too, until they because conversational (in a Weinberger/Searls/Locke sort of way way) and changed the way we engage in social discourse, and even had measurable, substantial effect in 1st life politics and further. We know this for a fact. The social web changed things measurably. Can objects, also participating in the same register of discourse, do likewise, and perhaps have impactful effect?

Why would we &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; try to make it so? Too many choices? Really? Who decides what choices are available to be made?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fun coming across various insights and remarks on the Blogject concept in all corners of the network. I would add to your insights that my wanting to think about Blogjects as something new (and forgive my devising a bungling idiom) is a political move best described thusly: &#8220;we&#8221; (inhabitants herein of the planet) need new things to cope with (insert your epic worldly challenge here) in a new way because the old ways are not working. There is, empirically, something new about objects nowadays in that they can potentially (so long as we don&#8217;t dismiss the ways they can help us create more habitable worlds) co-inhabit this fascinating and promising digitally networked world of social exchange that is taking place on the Internet. That social exchange is dramatically new (cf. Benkler and Jenkins, forthcoming), and heavy with opportunity for refashioning the world. </p>
<p>Example: We have never had a world in which an $18.90 sensor (in single units) coupled to an existing two-way datastream (eg General Motor&#8217;s OnStar(tm) system or, as I&#8217;m doing, a simple GSM network data transfer and a Nokia phone) can disseminate at a high rate (25/sec) the content of gasoline or diesel emissions from vehicles — and publish that in real-time to the entirety of the networked world. That _potential_ for a simple Blogject is new. This Blogject has no Artificial Intelligence — that&#8217;s not what Blogjects are about. But, in the Latourian sense, Blogjects are social beings in that they (can) participate in conversations that matter, substantively.</p>
<p>Blogjects are &#8220;only&#8221; sources of information if that is all we want from them. Websites were only sources of information once, too, until they because conversational (in a Weinberger/Searls/Locke sort of way way) and changed the way we engage in social discourse, and even had measurable, substantial effect in 1st life politics and further. We know this for a fact. The social web changed things measurably. Can objects, also participating in the same register of discourse, do likewise, and perhaps have impactful effect?</p>
<p>Why would we <em>not</em> try to make it so? Too many choices? Really? Who decides what choices are available to be made?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blogjects&#8230;hmm!!! by Weekly Roundup (25 June 2006) at teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup (25 June 2006) at teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This reference to &#8216;blogjects&#8217; comes from a reference made on Knowledging across life’s curriculum where the idea of an &#8216;Internet of Things&#8217; is quoted: The Internet of Things is the underpinnings for a new kind of digital, networked ecology in which objects become collaborators in helping us shape our individual social practices towards the goal of creating a more livable, habitable and sustainable world. “Blogjects” — or objects that blog — captures the potential of networked Things to inform us, create visualizations, represent to us aspects of our world that were previously illegible or only accessible by specialist. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This reference to &#8216;blogjects&#8217; comes from a reference made on Knowledging across life’s curriculum where the idea of an &#8216;Internet of Things&#8217; is quoted: The Internet of Things is the underpinnings for a new kind of digital, networked ecology in which objects become collaborators in helping us shape our individual social practices towards the goal of creating a more livable, habitable and sustainable world. “Blogjects” — or objects that blog — captures the potential of networked Things to inform us, create visualizations, represent to us aspects of our world that were previously illegible or only accessible by specialist. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blogjects&#8230;hmm!!! by Knowledging across life&#8217;s curriculum &#124; Quantifacts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knowledging across life&#8217;s curriculum &#124; Quantifacts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Below is one of these finds. A cultural anthropology view of numbers&#160; statistical artifacts. I couldn&#8217;t resist. Like Blogjects explored earlier, Quantifacts is another&#160;neologism with character. Another discursive object&#160;with weight in our collective imagination. What follows only has an indirect link to&#160;education or even learning per se. The&#160;excerpt looks at how numbers commodify knowledge&#160;and transforms&#160; the nature of what is&#160;understood to be real. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Below is one of these finds. A cultural anthropology view of numbers&nbsp; statistical artifacts. I couldn&rsquo;t resist. Like Blogjects explored earlier, Quantifacts is another&nbsp;neologism with character. Another discursive object&nbsp;with weight in our collective imagination. What follows only has an indirect link to&nbsp;education or even learning per se. The&nbsp;excerpt looks at how numbers commodify knowledge&nbsp;and transforms&nbsp; the nature of what is&nbsp;understood to be real. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A tool and a talk by Francine</title>
		<link>http://klever.edublogs.org/2006/06/15/a-tool-and-a-talk/#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>Francine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far so good Maggie. I usually do my part in helping the development efforts of new information tools and yours seems promising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far so good Maggie. I usually do my part in helping the development efforts of new information tools and yours seems promising.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A tool and a talk by Maggie</title>
		<link>http://klever.edublogs.org/2006/06/15/a-tool-and-a-talk/#comment-2686</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Francine, 

Thanks for your mention of Diigo, and good points you made. Indeed, Diigo is still under close beta and it's undergoing lots of rapid improvements. We'd love to have your participation in our user forum for these kind of great user feedback! 

Meanwhile, Diigo now already combines the following tools/services to make it very userful for anyone browsing a lot of stuff online:

** The Best Web Annotation Service:    add highlights and sticky notes on any web page, anywhere, and access them anywhere

** An All-in One Bookmarking Tool :   bookmark to Diigo, delicious, Simpy, Furl, Spurl.,,,,   and make them permanently cached and full-text searchable

** A Powerful Blogging Platform:  annotate webpages and quickly turn them into blogs with a built-in blog editor or enhanced linkrolls.

** A Great Collaborative Tool:  share and interact on online findings, complete with highlights and sticky notes

** The Most Customizable Search Tool:  like Google's toolbar, but fully customizable, so you can add any other specialty searches.

** Unique Content Selection Menu: makes it extremely convenient to interact with every word on a web page -  highlight, search, look up -  whatever you want!

cheers, 

~ Maggie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Francine, </p>
<p>Thanks for your mention of Diigo, and good points you made. Indeed, Diigo is still under close beta and it&#8217;s undergoing lots of rapid improvements. We&#8217;d love to have your participation in our user forum for these kind of great user feedback! </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Diigo now already combines the following tools/services to make it very userful for anyone browsing a lot of stuff online:</p>
<p>** The Best Web Annotation Service:    add highlights and sticky notes on any web page, anywhere, and access them anywhere</p>
<p>** An All-in One Bookmarking Tool :   bookmark to Diigo, delicious, Simpy, Furl, Spurl.,,,,   and make them permanently cached and full-text searchable</p>
<p>** A Powerful Blogging Platform:  annotate webpages and quickly turn them into blogs with a built-in blog editor or enhanced linkrolls.</p>
<p>** A Great Collaborative Tool:  share and interact on online findings, complete with highlights and sticky notes</p>
<p>** The Most Customizable Search Tool:  like Google&#8217;s toolbar, but fully customizable, so you can add any other specialty searches.</p>
<p>** Unique Content Selection Menu: makes it extremely convenient to interact with every word on a web page -  highlight, search, look up -  whatever you want!</p>
<p>cheers, </p>
<p>~ Maggie</p>
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		<title>Comment on blog(re)jects by Borderland &#187; Making Things Public</title>
		<link>http://klever.edublogs.org/2006/06/13/blog-re-jects/#comment-2656</link>
		<dc:creator>Borderland &#187; Making Things Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m thinking about Why Things Matter. Things matter because if we don&#8217;t attend to their meanings, we won&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re talking about. Things change, and take on lives of their own. They&#8217;re invested with the intentions of all the people who find a purpose for them. Things have a life. And as Francine pointed out, they have an afterlife. For all the things that we can see or name, there are interest groups. Things might be said to acquire agendas from the people who employ them for various reasons. Even trash, a word for something that have outlives its original agenda, has interest groups from the ranks of the ecologically minded. Politics is all about things. Francine pointed out that things matter because they trace stories, and she asked, &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t we listening?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m thinking about Why Things Matter. Things matter because if we don&#8217;t attend to their meanings, we won&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re talking about. Things change, and take on lives of their own. They&#8217;re invested with the intentions of all the people who find a purpose for them. Things have a life. And as Francine pointed out, they have an afterlife. For all the things that we can see or name, there are interest groups. Things might be said to acquire agendas from the people who employ them for various reasons. Even trash, a word for something that have outlives its original agenda, has interest groups from the ranks of the ecologically minded. Politics is all about things. Francine pointed out that things matter because they trace stories, and she asked, &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t we listening?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on blog(re)jects by Francine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Doug Noon&lt;/strong&gt; said: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Way to go, Francine. All things have a limited “lifespan” and in a smarter world maybe they could learn to properly throw themselves away since people don’t seem inclined or maybe smart enough to do it themselves.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What a wonderful idea. "Smart" recycling, instead of helping our thinking, &lt;i&gt;things&lt;/i&gt; think and dispose of themselves!!! I love it.
Francine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Doug Noon</strong> said: </p>
<blockquote><p>Way to go, Francine. All things have a limited “lifespan” and in a smarter world maybe they could learn to properly throw themselves away since people don’t seem inclined or maybe smart enough to do it themselves.
</p></blockquote>
<p>What a wonderful idea. &#8220;Smart&#8221; recycling, instead of helping our thinking, <i>things</i> think and dispose of themselves!!! I love it.<br />
Francine</p>
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		<title>Comment on blog(re)jects by Doug Noon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Noon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go, Francine. All things have a limited "lifespan" and in a smarter world maybe they could learn to properly throw themselves away since people don't seem inclined or maybe smart enough to do it themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go, Francine. All things have a limited &#8220;lifespan&#8221; and in a smarter world maybe they could learn to properly throw themselves away since people don&#8217;t seem inclined or maybe smart enough to do it themselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Blogjects&#8230;hmm!!! by Information, Choice, and Blogjects at Ruminate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Information, Choice, and Blogjects at Ruminate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Doug has a reference to Francine, who comments: &#8220;For example, the “geotagger” on your blog sends back interesting information on user location, but…….so what? A cool piece of code, but with (to my knowledge) few applications for the blogger other than to satisfy curiosity. Don’t get me wrong, I too love these ‘gadgets’. Instead of seeing them as information tools, they are to me “inner circle” badges, blog branding, tag/links to and for the technorati.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Doug has a reference to Francine, who comments: &#8220;For example, the “geotagger” on your blog sends back interesting information on user location, but…….so what? A cool piece of code, but with (to my knowledge) few applications for the blogger other than to satisfy curiosity. Don’t get me wrong, I too love these ‘gadgets’. Instead of seeing them as information tools, they are to me “inner circle” badges, blog branding, tag/links to and for the technorati.&#8221; [...]</p>
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